|
IMDB rating: 5.90 Plot: “Depth Charge” focuses on veteran naval Commander Krieg (Eric Roberts), who has commandeered his own submarine with the help of mercenaries. While demanding a ransom in exchange for sparing the lives of billions from a nuclear attack, Commander Kreig is unaware that saboteurs are bent on stopping him from carrying out his dangerous and destructive plan… |
Available versions:
DivX Version (Normal Quality), iPod/iPhone Version
Actors: Baer Dotan,Barachina Lloyd,Beals Hallock,Breznick Andrew,Constantine Yorgo,DiBarsanti Aurelius,Elbitar Eyad,Fisher David Dayan,Gedrick Jason,Hall Justin Rodgers,Jacyna Jerzy,Jeanes Jace,Kubr Mark,Meed Geoff,Oparei Deobia,Action,
Can you help me to understand how a supposedly just God allows the amount of suffering that we see?
I am trying to do anything and everything to help my fiance(we’ll call him John) to live even just through the night right now. He is a great person and a great Daddy to a beautiful 15 month old daughter. He has a huge heart and is loyal to a fault, which is a little bit of what landed him in the hospital. He suffers (greatly) from bi-polar disorder, manic depression and serious anger management issues. He has an intense need for every one to like him and is unfortunately a follower, he will do things he knows are completely stupid to fit in with whatever people he is with. All of this has root in his family, as it usually does. His father was a Navy Seal and one of the most aggressive of that bunch even, he has no compassion or anything from what I have seen, and he is directly responsible in at least 2 ways for much of the root of Johns problems. He was an absent father who was drunk when he was around (he owned a bar then) and he often made John at the age of 9 and 10 leave their house unlocked all night in case he lost his keys. He would also bring woman home often, as well as his regular girlfriends, and often John was witness to the 2 backed beast romping though the house while he was home and awake from the noise. He was with his father only because he was difficult even for a boy and his mother could not handle him and had decided to let his father, whom she divorced because he is a terrible man, try. When this didn’t work, the family moved to a new state where his stepfather had a summer home, he was immediately pushed into a fight with a bully and this pushed John over the edge after spending many years trying to make his folks happy and always falling short. John has a way of falling into the rough and dumb crowd, and had disappointed his family again, causing a mental breakdown or sorts, after which they put him into a kind of halfway house to deal with, where he was mentally and physically abused, bringing back suppressed memories of past sexual abuse by a family member and then days later he began to reenact it on another kid, stopping for whatever reason before it went too far, both incidents in the woods not 40 feet from his backyard with Mom home. Oh, Mom has suppressed all memory of this happening, but there are court papers with her signature from the incident, outlining what she knew of it at the time. He wont show her the paper. They got him better (sort of) and took him back to the original home, putting him right back with the same kids that had been getting him into trouble before. So the cycle continued yearly or more often until he joined the Navy, like his father, desperately needing to be recognized by his father who wouldn’t show love ever. He goes into the Navy, he is proud of himself but usually alone in the depths of the ships engine rooms. He feels a sense of accomplishment and begins to think he will be okay after all, when a gang of about 12 other seamen, on base, converge on him just before he can get to his motorcycle and go to his barracks room. They all began to beat him, There was a witness nearby who called the MP’s but he wasn’t going to get involved with those numbers. John was left with both sides of his jaw broken, there is still to this day sand and gravel ground and healed into his face that was nearly hamburger in a couple of places. They broke an arm and fractured both wrists, and caused damage to his neck and spine. He still has multiple issues due to these injuries. Fast forward a couple of years and John is walking down a street that he half grew up on with his best friend and his friends cousin who is 7 years younger, still a minor at the time, and a complete ass already, with other underage enemies. These enemies pick a fight from a truck with the cousin and he cant hold his own so John jumps in to save his butt, ands up getting run down by the truck and pinned to a fence next to a mail box that he ripped off the pole and threw through the open window of the truck, hitting the minor driver and causing slight damage to his eye as well as him to hit a car and tree on the street. John was an adult who took violent action towards a minor, not good and didn’t matter it was defending himself and his friends cousin. Some BS with John moving the mailbox out of the middle of the street and tossing it into a yard which happened to sit down a steep well below the road, thus causing it to be "an attempt to hide it from the police." He was charged with felonious assault, discharging a deadly missile into a vehicle occupied by minors. Throwing a mailbox is discharging a deadly missile? And aren’t all missiles deadly Mrs. Costello? (the judge who charged him) Okay, he accepted he screwed up and should have just walked away, but what was done was done. He packed up and moved to where his brother has a business he was supposed to be able to help run and then take over. Also where he met me! (I knew nothing of most of this until recently, I have been so naive!) All was gr
Nobody will read that. I didnt read that!
But, its all about trust. You obey His commands, and He will give you the desires of your heart.
Southern Baptist | Nov 11, 2009
First, way tooo much. The answer is simple though. The only way God ‘allows’ suffering is by being patient with mankind. God doesn’t want people to suffer. He made the world perfect and in the end will make it perfect again. Satan causes suffering. Mankind listening to satan our adversary rather to God also causes suffering. We can see a relationship with God where he can turn all things into our life into good for him and us.
Disciple | Nov 11, 2009
The elephant looks very cheerful, happier than the man. I would use it to make some point about uplifint peoples spirits. But I do not know how.
Wynne | Nov 11, 2009
The same just God who would send wild bears to slaughter forty children for teasing a bald man, or who will torture you for eternity, even if you committed no greater crime than stealing a cookie.
Witch | Nov 11, 2009
God, who is this God?
Jean Luc Picard | Nov 11, 2009
And to your left folks you can clearly see the Great Wall of R&S, and if we continue to our right we see a lonely bridge crossing a lovely river. Oh look, goats…
A Modest Proposal | Nov 11, 2009
Because without suffering joy would be nonexistent. You have to experience pain in order to appreciate joy, in other words.
Indeed | Nov 11, 2009
people have free will to do evil
they convict them self by the evil they do.
if god stopped it they would never be convicted of doing evil.
they could never be judged honestly for the wicked evil things they do.
God's servant | Nov 11, 2009
I’m sorry, but this is too long. You’re better off in figuring out how to condense this to about 3 sentences, then ask again. But I think that if you can get it down to 3 sentences, the answer will be pretty obvious.
I’m not just being smart here. This method has worked for me a hundred times when trying to figure out something that seems complex and unsolvable.
dbraunofva | Nov 11, 2009
How does God allow such long questions to be asked?
Ryan | Nov 11, 2009
God dosent allow suffering he tolorates our BS and yet He loves us the bi-polar is no ones falut dont blame God
Andrea P | Nov 11, 2009
We would not know suffering without hurt friends and families and suffering of our own. We would not know loss without experiencing and we would not know love and peace without receiving it…if nothing is taken, nothing is given…in life or death or any other troubles.
shades of grey | Nov 11, 2009
God allows all things to happen for a reason.
He can make something so wonderful out of something so horrible.
Keep your faith and stay strong. Pray and praise Him!
Syrus | Nov 11, 2009
He has internal battles you cant help him with. He needs to get professional help.
VGirl | Nov 11, 2009
I’m going to give you link to a story that has greatly affected my outlook. I hope you’ll read it, and that maybe it will be able to alter your perspective of your fiance’s situation.
http://lucis.net/stuff/clarke/star_clark e.html
Chelsea | Nov 11, 2009
Okay, I didn’t see any of the suffering in that book caused by God. I saw a bunch of people acting stupid and doing stupid things. We cannot expect good outcomes from life if we choose to do stupid things. Come on, even non-believers don’t think this.
I also see you enabling. Seems you can accurately label John’s father, but you’re making a bunch of excuses for John.
ruth | Nov 11, 2009
These are the consequences of people acting without thinking and then not examining those actions, even when they are forming an ugly pattern. Take a breath. Look at your own actions and help him to look at his. Start there, and maybe you’ll begin a trend of reason, rather than extending this. You can’t do much about the behavior of others, you can only point them in a direction. I don’t think this is God allowing suffering. Here’s what you’ve got in your life. Here’s what he has in his life. This is the way it is. How do both of you decide to live? Where do you go from here? Don’t look for someone or something new to blame, just stop and think. I’m sorry there is so much suffering in his life right now, but if he’s in the hospital, that might be the best place for him. Hopefully he gets the help he needs. Maybe some therapy and medication is in order. It is good to know that life is bigger than you, that you can connect to something greater, but likely you won’t do it by shaking your fist at the sky. The change comes when you get beyond that. May we all get beyond that.
Hapapino | Nov 11, 2009